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Grinding disc or flap disc: which to take for a weld seam

When the weld bead has to come off with a thick grinding disc, when a flap disc is enough, in what order to combine them and which grit to take for paint or stainless steel. A guide from the manufacturer of both tools.

NovoAbrasive Extreme 125×6.0 mm grinding disc and a Ceramic CR P60 flap disc side by side

After welding a bead, spatter and scale remain on the part. They can be removed with two tools on an ordinary 125 mm grinder — and welders have argued for years which one is better. The answer is simple: they are not rivals but two stages of one job. Below is when to take which and how to combine them.

To remove a weld bead on metal from 3 mm take a Type 27 grinding disc 6.0–8.0 mm thick: it removes metal fastest. To level the seam flush, for thin sheet up to 2 mm, for stainless steel and surfaces to be painted — a P40–P80 flap disc, then P120. In the shop both are usually used in turn: first the grinding disc, then the flap disc.

Two tools — two jobs

NovoAbrasive Extreme 125×6.0×22.23 mm grinding disc, Type 27
NovoAbrasive Extreme 27 grinding disc: 125×6.0×22.23 mm, ceramic grain. Its job is to remove the weld bead in a few passes.

A grinding disc is a thick Type 27 disc, 6.0 or 8.0 mm, on a reinforced resin bond. It works with its side face at 15–30° and is made for one thing: removing metal as fast as possible. It levels a 3–4 mm butt-weld bead with the base metal in a few passes. The surface after it is rough, with visible scratches from the 24–30 grain.

NovoAbrasive flap disc: a layer of abrasive-cloth flaps close up
Flap disc: dozens of abrasive-cloth flaps that wear layer by layer and keep exposing fresh grain.

A flap disc is a backing plate with a fan of abrasive-cloth flaps on P36–P120 grain. It removes metal moderately but leaves an even, uniform surface, does not overheat thin metal and does not "dig" into the workpiece. The T27 (flat) shape works at 0–15°, T29 (conical) more aggressively, at 15–25°.

Hence the main rule: the grinding disc removes volume, the flap disc finishes the surface. The construction of each is explained in the guides "Grinding disc: what it is and how to choose" and "How to choose a flap disc".

Table: which disc for which seam

Seam and metalFirst toolSecond toolComment
Butt weld, steel from 3 mm, bead 2–4 mmGrinding disc 6.0 mmP60–P80 flap discThe grinding disc leaves 0.5–1 mm above the surface, the flap disc levels it
Fillet weld, hard-to-reach spotGrinding disc 115–125 mm or T29 P40 flap discP80 flap discThe conical T29 gets into the corner at 15–25°
Thin sheet up to 2 mm, TIG or spot weldP60–P80 flap discP120 flap discA grinding disc will burn through or warp the sheet
Stainless steel, visible seamINOX P60 flap disc (zirconia or ceramic)P120 flap discOnly an iron-free tool, no overheating to blue spots
A seam for painting or powder coatingGrinding disc 6.0 mm (if there is a bead)P80 → P120 flap discPrimer needs an even scratch, not deep furrows
Aluminium, non-ferrous metalsP40–P60 flap discP80–P120 flap discShort passes, otherwise the grain glazes over

When a grinding disc is a mistake

Do not cut with a grinding disc
A grinding disc is designed only for grinding with its face at 15–30°. Cutting with the edge of a 6 mm disc overheats the metal and overloads the grinder, and trying to grind with the side of a cutting disc can destroy it at 80 m/s. The rules are in thesafety guides for working with KSHM.

When a flap disc is a mistake

Rule of thumb
A bead over 2 mm on metal from 3 mm — start with the grinding disc. Anything thinner or lower — straight to the flap disc. In doubt, start with a P40 flap disc: if the seam has not changed noticeably in a minute, take the grinding disc.

The order of seam work in practice

  1. Grinding. A 6.0 mm grinding disc at 15–30°, moving along the seam, no dwelling in one spot. Take the bead down to 0.5–1 mm above the base metal — not to zero, or you easily "sink" the seam.
  2. Levelling. A P60–P80 flap disc (T29 if you need it more aggressive, T27 for a flat surface) evens out the remaining bead and removes the scratches of the grinding disc.
  3. Finish. For primer and paint — a P120 flap disc; for polishing stainless steel — on to P180–P240 and non-woven material.
  4. Check. Run a ruler across the seam: there must be neither a hump nor a hollow. For critical structures the depth of removal is set by the technologist.

For stainless steel the whole chain is done with INOX-marked tools and with working pauses so the metal does not overheat. The step-by-step technique with photos is in the guide "Grinding weld seams".

NovoAbrasive discs for weld seams

ToolWhat is in the range (125 mm)For which stage
Type 27 grinding discs125×6.0 mm in the Extreme (ceramic grain, Metal + Inox), Profi and Standard series; 125×8.0 mm — Profi; 12 200 rpmRemoving the bead, chamfers, scale
T27 / T29 flap discsP36–P120; Standard — aluminium oxide, Profi — aluminium oxide or zirconia, Extreme ZR — zirconia alumina, Extreme CR — ceramic grain; 12 200 rpmLevelling, finish, stainless steel

Grinding discs are made to EN 12413, certified by MPA Hannover and pass the oSa side-load test on the factory's own test bench; flap discs are coated abrasives, their standard is EN 13743.

Frequently asked questions

Can a weld seam be removed with a flap disc alone?

Yes, if the bead is low (up to 1.5–2 mm) or the metal is thin. On a 3–4 mm bead on thick steel it takes much longer than a grinding disc and uses up several flap discs where one grinding disc would do.

Which flap disc grit for a weld seam?

P40–P60 — to remove the remaining bead and the scratches of the grinding disc, P80–P120 — for the finish under primer and paint. For stainless steel with a visible seam take a zirconia or ceramic INOX disc and finish with P120.

T27 or T29 for a weld seam?

T29 (conical) is more aggressive and works at 15–25° — it removes the remaining bead better and gets into corners. T27 (flat) works at a low angle and gives a flat surface for finishing.

Can a stainless-steel seam be ground with an ordinary disc?

No. A disc without the INOX mark contains iron, sulphur and chlorine, which stay in the surface and produce rust within weeks. Take INOX grinding and flap discs and do not overheat the seam to blue temper colours.

Is a grinding disc needed for a TIG seam on thin sheet?

No. A TIG seam is low and neat, and a grinding disc will overheat and warp a 1–2 mm sheet. A P80 flap disc is enough, then P120 for paint.

NovoAbrasive grinding and flap discs

Both tools for weld seam work from one factory: grinding discs — EN 12413, MPA Hannover, oSa test; flap discs — EN 13743. Wholesale prices from the manufacturer.

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